15/10/2018

A Zizek nugget

Un court extrait d'une réponse de Slavoj Zizek lors d'une conférence au Subversive Film Festival de Zagreb en mai 2008. La question portait sur les évènements comme celui-ci, payants, cooptés, sponsorisés et ici, d'après la personne posant la question, laissant les premiers rangs pour des journalistes dont certains s'étaient compromis avec des criminels de guerre (photos ou autre). Je poste cet extrait parce qu'il me fait marrer et je souligne deux trois choses utiles au passage.

"(...) I still always very naively believe in the elementary subversiveness of theory. That's why — not because there's no money, there's always money for rubbish — that's why they're closing universities and reduce the finances here and in England. Since we were just talking about English Speculative Realism, you know that scandal (creusez, il y a les néo-réactionnaires au bout de cette histoire), now they all at once pulled the plug on Middlesex Philosophy Department and so on... Which means, I think that precisely this Bologna Reform (to speak about it in old Marxist terminology) is a sign that the ruling class is aware of the dangers of theory.
And now, this doesn't bother me at all, there could be sitting here bad people and so on... Sooner or later they will become aware. It will of course be too late for them, that, how should I say, at a certain point we will tell them : "Here you go gentlemen from the first row, up here, here's the rope around the neck..." I have no problem with this.
If anyone is bothering you about why they gave us, I don't know, some money and so on... all that. Here we have to be completely brutal. For example you told me some people were complaining about the high cost, you see because we don't get that much money. We had the same problem in London in a conference about Communism. Some pseudo-leftists were whining "But how is it 50 dollars!" Well I can tell you why! Because that was a conference about Communism and not about the 'suffering of animals' and 'children who suffer', and all these silly philanthropic themes. For the theme of Communism there wasn't any good Soros to give us money.
Most of us paid our own way, the institution Birkebeck even gave us a bill for the room precisely because we didn't have any of these sponsors. We obviously didn't get any honorarium. Just for some people who couldn't, we paid their card, some hotels (I paid my own), and the lecture area of course, and so on. Which means, you know, we live in brutal Capitalism, and instead of paying for it, we should brutally use it.
The problem isn't some idiot in power giving you money. Take the money! Take the Money! But take it without moralistic feelings of guilt. The next day kill him, and if he says "But I gave you money", tell him "You Idiot, why did you give me the money?" Here there's no room for moralism. Be brutal. If we live in Capitalism, then we live in Capitalism. Take the money wherever you can without any feeling of responsibility. They give us money not because they like us but because they think it's chic or in that way they make a spectacle and so on... Let them live in their illusions. That much better for us.
So, I agree with what you're saying but don't be so paranoid in the sense, "oh but all of this is co-opted and so on..." It's not so, to tell you, it's not. You know, things don't work that way, that at first, how should I say, that's what always fascinated me, like that citation earlier of Tito. "First we just wanted power, then we went for self-governance." Things can even start as some stupid spectacle, but then they become serious. So have more faith in theory. If nothing else, those in power know where the problem is. And that's why what you were saying about Greece, and here, those big demonstrations, that was a huge moment. That's the fight for what I called "intellectual property" and so on... Today there is a big battle being fought in Europe, (to say it in pathetic traditional terminology) Capital and European nations spontaneously feel that something new is happening. That the time of that, how should I say, "listless postmodernism", you know where you analyze some Jane Austen story and you find some subversive movement. That these times are coming to an end. There are signs of panic in the system and we shouldn't lose our nerves in these times."


Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGC3uJadXh0

 
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